<p>Attending: Andrew, Andy, Chris, Dan, Davis, Jason, Marty&nbsp;</p>

<p>No presentations scheduled for today;&nbsp;Jim at BNL;&nbsp;Round the table:</p>

<ul>
	<li>Chris was writing the conference proceedings for his two talks</li>
	<li>Davies finished his studies and will move&nbsp;to something else (still SiD-related)</li>
	<li>Andy: the UTA group has is recovering from a RAID array crash</li>
	<li>Still waiting for signals from ILC; a formal announcement is expected in January from the Japan's Science Council; the KEK director will visit Europe in December; representatives of the MEXT will visit&nbsp;SLAC in&nbsp;February when a statement is expected. In parallel there are discussion on the role of 'physics and detectors' in the future pre-lab structure in addition to the accelerator and facilities units.&nbsp;Also discussions on the future structure of ILC (CERN-like?).</li>
	<li>Chris mentioned that there was a CLIC presentation in Sendai on Conformal Tracking (given by Frank&nbsp;Simon);&nbsp;when&nbsp;asked&nbsp;about the exact advantages of CT in (u,v) coordinates&nbsp;vs. tracking in (x,y),&nbsp;FS did not have an answer; but it was mentioned that&nbsp;ILD has compared&nbsp;CT with&nbsp;x,y tracking and they have seen no evident improvements.</li>
</ul>

<p>Next meeting: Dec 18th at 9:00AM&nbsp;PST&nbsp;</p>